Where is Your Shepherd Leading You?

 

 

If a minister misinterprets Bible verses one day, and people follow that misinterpretation the next day, are those people following something scriptural?

If a minister purposely teaches something contrary to the Bible one day, and people follow those false teachings the next day, are those people following something scriptural?

What if the people in those two scenarios, and many people after them, followed the falsehood for weeks, months, years, and even centuries later, would they be following something scriptural?

If everyone who teaches/preaches the Bible learns from others without studying for themselves, and studying objectively, how would they know if what they were learning, and now teaching others, was scriptural?

What if all your life as a Christian, Christian ministers and others have been teaching you one thing, while the Bible said another?  If they all taught it, and you didn’t study the Bible for yourself, how would you ever know that what you were being taught wasn’t scriptural?

In this situation, who or what would God uphold?  Would He dismiss what He already said and made clear in Bible, and side with the people, thinking of them as correct; or would He stick to what He already said, see the people as wrong, and maybe even let them get taken away by the false doctrine because they refused to study to show themselves approved?

If you are one of those people who are so sure that T. D. Jakes is great, anointed, godly, or highly educated in the Word, stick around.  I dare you.  You may just save yourself from the lake of fire.

 

T. D. Jakes on the Sabbath
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D. Jakes on Tithing
T.
D. Jakes on Homosexuality
T.
D. Jakes the Actor

 


 


T. D. Jakes on the Sabbath

 

 

Open up the link below and watch the video while reading the commentary below.

T.D. Jakes – Entering into “God’s Rest” Pt. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cEzRk3n2M&list=PL77AE5A4088B376AF

Additional source for the video:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNCcrpEaCTt7CBjnHnOclRA/videos

 

1:40 – 1:43 – “It is that resting place that David talks about in Psalms 23.”

PSALMS
PSALM 23
A Psalm of David.
THE LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth
me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of
righteousness for his name’s sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of
death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and
thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine
enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth
over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days
of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for
ever.

You can get a resting place from that?

 

2:01 – 2:06 – “He talks about a place of rest where I can drink from still waters, and find green grass.”  What?  Where?

 

3:38 – 4:27 – He’s speaking of Jeremiah 17:21.  If you listen closely you’ll notice that he does something that most Christian pastors do, he interprets what is written, or in other words, he redefines what is written.  Basically, he’s saying, “It’s not saying what it’s saying, it’s saying what I’m saying.”  This is a standard practice in Roman Christianity.  Read it in context.  Read from the beginning of chapter 16 to the end of chapter 17.  And take note of the blessings and curses given at 17:24 for obeying and disobeying these Sabbath regulations.  The Sabbath must have been mighty serious.

 

4:28 – 4:34 – “… one of the signs of the covenant that God had with Israel in the Old Testament was the Sabbath day.”  Ummmmm … no.  Circumcision was a sign of a covenant he had with Israel.  The ten commandments on stone were a sign of a covenant with Israel.  The Sabbath was never said to be a sign of any covenant.  The only sign the Sabbath was said to be was a sign between God and His people so they would know that this particular god was their God.  The Sabbath shows that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob set them apart, and that they were set apart to Him.

EXODUS
CHAPTER 31

12 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying,
Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between
me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know
that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto
you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death:
for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut
off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the
sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any
work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath,
to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a

perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for
ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and
on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.


Before translation what you see at the end of verse 13 actually had His name, not “am the LORD”.  You can see it at this link below, but remember Hebrew is read from right to left.  In addition, they have the incorrect name.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/31-13.htm

 

A few of the many other verses:
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/6-6.htm
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/6-7.htm
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/7-5.htm
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/10-2.htm
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/14-18.htm
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/exodus/20-2.htm

But this goes off into another topic that I’m sure your pastor, or the very knowledgeable T. D. Jakes, has taught you, which is that “God” and “Lord” are titles; and the Creator’s actual name has been replaced with these titles all throughout the Bible.

So, the Sabbath was a sign to show that Yahuah (His name), not Horus, Ishtar, Tammuz, or some “other god” sanctified them.

 

4:48 – 4:53 – There was a great debate going on at that time over what day was the real day to worship God?  There is no “real” or “right” day to worship God.  A day of worship was NEVER instituted.  Worship is not spoken of at all.  But for the sake of clarity, let’s just say that the sanctioned day of worship and the Sabbath are the same.  He says that there was a great debate at that time, as if no one knew, or people couldn’t figure it out.  The day “to worship” is CLEARLY spelled out in the Bible.  The only way there could be a “great debate” is if people were trying to ignore what was written, and support what they wanted.

 

4:54 – 4:58 – That so-called great debate continues to this day and has existed all the way back to the Old Testament?  What?!  What?!  That statement is insane!  There is NO WAY he doesn’t know that what he said was false, or in other words, a lie.  There is no way ….

 

5:03 – 5:10 – The New Testament “tells us”?  He must be speaking of the verses Rome’s Christianity has been using for hundreds of years to teach that there are no special, set aside days, like God’s holy days, like the Sabbath – Galatians chapter 4 and Colossians chapter 2.  Sorry, that is NOT what those verses are saying.  For a full breakdown of Galatians chapter 2, download Wake Up Jacob and read from pages 279 – 283.  For a full breakdown of Colossians chapter 2 read from pages 287- 291.  And please note, these are two separate letters to two separate groups of people.  Paul is discussing their particular issues.  And with that, T. D. Jakes says that “the New Testament” says it.  No, Paul said it, or it’s what others have made it seem as though Paul said.  If Yahusha/Yahushua/Jesus and the apostles said one thing, and Paul said another, who do you go with?  If Paul is telling you something different than what the Messiah said, then maybe there is something wrong with Paul or the letters attributed to him, right?  And if the New Testament “says” not to give respect of days, how the heck is Sunday respected?  How can pastors like him preach about how the apostles met on Sunday and Jesus rose on a Sunday (supposedly), so Sunday is the day to worship, or is the Sabbath, when they also interpret Paul’s words as saying not to give respect to any days?  You can’t have them both.  One or the other has to be chosen.  Which one is it?  And if you want more evidence showing that Paul couldn’t have been speaking against God’s holy days (His respected days), go to page 237 of Wake Up Jacob and read what’s under “Here are a couple of other examples that show Paul kept the Law”.  And as far as Jesus being crucified on Friday and rising on Sunday, you might want to rethink that.  That’s not three days and three nights (Matthew 12:40).  So, a Sunday resurrection as proof of a switch to a Sunday Sabbath is not a valid argument.

 

5:20 – 5:22 – He said that Saturday “technically” IS the Sabbath day.  Either it is or it isn’t.  What is “technically”?  But regardless, he just said that the Sabbath day is Saturday.

 

5:29 – 6:35 – While trying to trivialize the Sabbath, he actually revealed that he knew that you can worship on any day.  So, he knows that the Sabbath is not about a day of worship.

 

6:37 – 7:06 – They came together on the first day of the week in the book of Acts.  This is more Roman Christian doctrine used to justify Sunday “worship”/Sabbath.

ACTS
CHAPTER 2
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the
temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat
their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people.
And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be
saved.


They were breaking bread from house to house daily (verse 46, and backed by 47).  And that was from chapter 2, so earlier in time.

 

ACTS
CHAPTER 20
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples
came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them,
ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech
until midnight.

 

So, they met everyday before they came together on the first day of the week, making that coming together on the first day of the week nothing special, ordinary, or set apart.

If you look at this verse before translation, it’s even less special.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/acts/20-7.htm

And if you read it in context, you see that it wasn’t special at all, that is, it wasn’t stated because it was “the new day”.  It was stated because it part of an account of a trip.

ACTS
CHAPTER 20
AND after the uproar was ceased, Paul called unto him the
disciples, and embraced them, and departed for to go into
Macedonia.
2 And when he had gone over those parts, and had given
them much exhortation, he came into Greece,
3 And there abode three months. And when the Jews laid
wait for him, as he was about to sail into Syria, he purposed
to return through Macedonia.
4 And there accompanied him into Asia Sopater of Berea;
and of the Thessalonians, Aristarchus and Secundus; and
Gaius of Derbe, and Timotheus; and of Asia, Tychicus and
Trophimus.
5 These going before tarried for us at Troas.
6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of
unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five
days; where we abode seven days.
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples
came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them,
ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech
until midnight.

 

Crazy, right?  But this is how these pastors have been getting over for centuries.  They know their congregation isn’t going to read.  In addition, once someone, especially someone you trust, puts an interpretation of a verse in your head, you will almost always see that interpretation when you read that verse for yourself, despite what’s clearly there.  This is main way most church-goers have become deceived in regards to the Bible.

And if that mention of the first day of the week can be used to justify Sunday worship/Sabbath, then that mention of the days of Unleavened Bread in verse 6 can be used to justify the Holy Days of the Law.

And using that same argument, what about the following?

ACTS
CHAPTER 13
14 ¶ But when they departed from Perga, they came to
Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the
sabbath day, and sat down.
15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the
rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and
brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people,
say on.
42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the
Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to
them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the
Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas:
who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the
grace of God.
44 ¶ And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city
together to hear the word of God.

 

7:10 – 7:15 – He wouldn’t make a doctrine out of that?  That’s exactly what many pastors have done for centuries.  And he says he wouldn’t make a doctrine out of it because there’s a deeper revelation, not because it’s wrong, which it is.

 

7:39 – 7:45 – “There is no mention of the Sabbath day from the book of Genesis to the book of Exodus when God gives the ten commandments.  And when he gives the ten commandments in the book of Exodus He says, ‘Remember the Sabbath day’ which looks back at the book of Genesis.”  Wow.  Unbelievable.  The Sabbath WAS mentioned between Genesis and the ten commandments, and that mention is the reason why He said to “remember”.  God told them to “remember” the Sabbath (Exodus 20:8) because it was already given to them in the wilderness/desert, before reaching Mt. Sinai.  Read Exodus 16:1-30.  So, either T. D. Jakes is mistaken, and doesn’t know the Word like you think he does, or is he flat out lying?  Or both.  Which is it?  And they even started receiving the Law while in Egypt (read Exodus chapters 12 and 13).

 

7:45 – end – After saying that there is no mention of the Sabbath day from the book of Genesis to the book of Exodus when God gives the ten commandments, he says: “And when He gives the ten commandments in the book of Exodus He says, ‘Remember the Sabbath day’ which looks back at the book of Genesis.  And then He says the word ‘to’ which looks forward to the future.  ‘Remember the Sabbath day,’ backwards, ‘to keep it holy unto the LORD.’  In that statement in the ten commandments we have a look backwards and a look forward.  And I want to take a moment and glance back at what the Sabbath day was, and then I want to take a moment and look forward at what the Sabbath day is.”  So, now you see why he said there was no mention of the Sabbath day from the book of Genesis to the book of Exodus when God gives the ten Commandments, he wants people to believe that when God said “Remember the Sabbath day” in Exodus He was referring to, or “looking back” at Genesis.  And then he goes on to say that the word “to” was a look forward – that’s what God meant by “to”.  He’s using the words “remember” and “to” as a foundation to build his lies from.  And not only that, he’s using God’s words and the ten commandments to do the same.

 


 

T.D. Jakes – Entering into “God’s Rest” Pt. 2

 

0:00 – 0:28 – He took a look at what the Sabbath day was, according to him or the people who wrote his script, but notice that when he spoke of “what it was” he only mentioned things from the book of Genesis.  He never mentioned the Sabbath regulations that were later given.  He never mentioned the many times God chastised the Israelites for not keeping the Sabbath.  He never mentioned how Jesus, Paul and the rest of the apostles kept the Sabbath.  He never mentioned how all early Christians kept the Sabbath (AND the rest of the Law).  So, what it was, according to him, was just God’s day of rest, not a commandment.  This is what he said.

 

0:29 – 0:40 – In his explanation of what the Sabbath was, he said, “Not so much that we would have a brief rest and go back to work again because God was through with creation.  When God finished with creation we were to enter into the rest with Him.”  He’s pretty much saying that the Sabbath that God took after the six days of creation abolished regulations of the Sabbath that God Himself later commanded.  True or false, isn’t that what he said?

Read Exodus 16:23-30.  And read Exodus 20:8-11.  It’s not so much a day a rest?!  What?!  That’s exactly what it is!  He told them to rest/cease from labor because He did!

Please take a look at these verses to see what T. D. Jakes left out: Exodus 23:12, 31:12-17, 34:21, 35:1-3; Leviticus 23:1-3; Deuteronomy 5:12-15; Nehemiah 13:15-22; Isaiah 58:13, 14; Jeremiah 17:19-27; Ezekiel 20:10-20; Matthew 12:1-13; Matthew 28:1; Luke 13:10-17, 23:52-24:1; John 7:22-24.

 

0:35 – 0:53 – “When God finished with creation we were to enter into the rest with Him.  And man entered into the rest with the LORD on the 7th day.  And stayed in that state of rest.  And there’s no mention of days, or works, or labors anymore until Adam sinned.”  The first part of what he said can’t be found in Scripture, it’s his creation.  As far as his last statement, which he uses to prove the first part, it is false.

GENESIS
CHAPTER 2
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the
garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

 

Man entered into a rest with the LORD on the 7th day and stayed in that rest until sin?  There’s no mention of works or labor until Adam sinned?

 

1:22 – 1:31 – “And God says in the book of Exodus, as He gives the ten commandments, to remember the Sabbath day – remember that sin breaks rest.”  This is why he previously stated that “remember” was looking back at Genesis.  He’s saying that to remember the Sabbath is to remember that sin breaks rest.  That whole little trip he took people on was all about totally redefining the Sabbath.  What he did is exactly what the rest of the TBN pastors do (Theft-Mo Dollar and others).

 

1:53 – 2:02 – “Remember that sin robbed you of the sabbath of staying in the Garden of Eden where you didn’t have to toil in the field, nor work for your food; where everything was brought to you.”  This links back to what he previously stated, “It is that resting place that David talks about in Psalms 23.”  The way his sermon is structured, it seems like an F.B.I. or CIA agent did it, or basically, someone who knows how to implant beliefs.  You can find this same structuring in the scripts of the News media.  Interesting.

 

2:15 – 2:29 – “Don’t start worshipping the Sabbath day; fore Jesus says to us … that man was not made for the Sabbath, but Sabbath for the man.”  Here’s another Roman Christian tactic.  They take words out of context to prove some totally unrelated thing they are saying.  Read Mark chapter 2.  T. D. Jakes interprets verse 27 as “the man is the more important issue, not the day, but the man”.  And look at how he says “Don’t start worshipping the Sabbath day.”  Who worships the day?  So, he starts off with a false allegation in order to later prove it false, and seem more correct.

 

2:46 – 3:12 – What he’s saying is that the Old Testament and the Law is merely a shadow, or representation, of what’s in the New Testament.  And that’s why you need someone like him to interpret for you.  And that’s why you shouldn’t look at that Old Testament.  This is that Roman Christian doctrine again.  It stems from the same conspiracy the words “Old Testament” and “New Testament” derive from (the documents our modern Bibles are translated from didn’t have the words “Old Testament” and “New Testament”).  But that’s another story.  As for Galatians, see pages 271 – 275 of Wake Up Jacob.  It is not saying that the Law is done away with, or is something of the past.  That’s what Roman Christianity puts in your head and makes you see.

 

3:12 – 3:43 – After saying that the Old Testament is a shadow, he says, “In the Old Testament God starts teaching us rest by showing us a day, a day, an eon, which is an age, which is a period.  God wants us to understand that there is a period and a time where a man is to enter into rest.  You will minimize the plan of God if you diminish this period down to a twenty-four hour period.  In the shadow [“Old” Testament], it may be a twenty-four hour period, but in the reality [“New” Testament] it is the day [time period] of grace in which we live right now.”  So, now the day of rest given in Hebrew in the Old Testament is a Greek word eon/aeon meaning a time period.

Here:
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/2-6.htm
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G165&t=KJV

He then goes on the put listeners in fear by saying that they will minimize the plan of God if they make the Sabbath a twenty-four period.  Using the false link between a day and eon stated previously, he says that it used to be a twenty-four hour period, but now it’s the period of grace we live in now.

 

4:30 – 4:58 – “When Jesus said, ‘It is finished’ it echoed all the way back to the Old Testament when the Father had finished His creation ….”  He then goes on to say that Jesus entered into rest and this rest is the rest that God wants the church to enter into, not a twenty-four hour period, and not the memory of a day.

 

4:58 – 5:23 – So, now the Sabbath day is a covenant between God and the nation of Israel.  But that’s exactly who he’s speaking to!  If you want proof, see the beginning of Wake Up Jacob.  And I find it very strange that he said that the Jews are waiting for “the” messiah to come, not “a” messiah.

 

6:47- 6:58 – Here, he’s telling the listeners to fight, push, and do whatever they have to do to enter into this rest, this new Sabbath.

 

6:59 – 7:11 – “In the shadow, He teaches us a place of rest.  That’s why the Levitical priesthood were forbidden from working as the other tribes did because they had entered into the temple and entered into the rest of the LORD.”  What a bunch of nonsense.  I’m not even going to waste my time on that one.

 

7:12 – 8:02 – The listener is told to fight to enter into this new Sabbath rest (said earlier), and fight off anyone who tries to bring them out of it.  He is basically telling them to fight off anyone who tries to get them to follow the true Sabbath.  That means he’s telling them to fight off anyone who tries to get them to follow God’s commandment.  He’s ensuring that anyone who tries to get them to keep the true Sabbath will be met with resistance.  That’s Satan.

PROVERBS
CHAPTER 28
9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even
his prayer shall be abomination.

 

8:23 – 8:35 – “Touch three people and tell them I’m in my Sabbath day now.  So I give no respect to the eating of meat, or the respecting of days because I have entered into the rest of the LORD.”  So, now that they are in their Sabbath day, this new Sabbath day, the rest of the Law is null and void.  That’s what he’s alluding to.  This is sickening.

 


 

 

T.D. Jakes – Entering into “God’s Rest”Pt. 3

 

I don’t think there’s a need to comment any further.

 

TD Jakes and I both mentioned Jeremiah 17.  But keep going, and take a look at what’s next, after 17:27 – chapter 18.

JEREMIAH
CHAPTER 18
THE word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2 Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will
cause thee to hear my words.
3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he
wrought a work on the wheels.
4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the
hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as
seemed good to the potter to make it.
5 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter?
saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand,
so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

 

Is that not you, marred clay, in the Potter’s House (name of TD Jakes’ church), in the hands of the potter (TD Jakes) being shaped into whatever he wills?

 

Truth vs Error (Sabbath)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIR4efoMBk

 


 

Now, let’s go over some history to see how the Sabbath was actually changed, in your mind, to Sunday.

How the Sabbath was switched to Sunday…STRICTLY HISTORY!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH8520YG-gI

Roman Christianity strikes again.

 

SUNDAY
Law Relating to Sunday

The earliest recognition of the observance of Sunday as a
legal duty is a constitution of Constantine in 321 a.d., enacting
that all courts of justice, inhabitants of towns, and workshops
were to be at rest on Sunday (venerabili die solis), with an
exception in favour of those engaged in agricultural labour.

Source: Encyclopedia Britannica (1911)

 

Shabbaths and the Feasts Days (Part3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO2ezRp2JqA

 

“Constantine would retain the title of pontifex maximus until his death, a title emperors bore as heads of the pagan priesthood, as would his Christian successors on to Gratian (r. 375–383).”

“However, Constantine certainly did not patronize Christianity alone. After gaining victory in the Battle of the Milvian Bridge (312), a triumphal arch—the Arch of Constantine—was built (315) to celebrate his triumph. The arch is decorated with images of the goddess Victoria. At the time of its dedication, sacrifices to gods like Apollo, Diana, and Hercules were made. Absent from the Arch are any depictions of Christian symbolism. However, as the Arch was commissioned by the Senate, the absence of Christian symbols may reflect the role of the Curia at the time as a pagan redoubt.[218]

Later in 321, Constantine instructed that Christians and non-Christians should be united in observing the venerable day of the sun, or Sunday referring to the sun-worship that Aurelian had established as an official cult. Furthermore, and long after his oft alleged conversion to Christianity, Constantine’s coinage continued to carry the symbols of the sun. Even after the pagan gods had disappeared from the coinage, Christian symbols appeared only as Constantine’s personal attributes: the chi rho between his hands or on his labarum, but never on the coin itself.[219] Even when Constantine dedicated the new capital of Constantinople, which became the seat of Byzantine Christianity for a millennium, he did so wearing the Apollonian sun-rayed Diadem; no Christian symbols were present at this dedication.”

“Constantine enforced the prohibition of the First Council of Nicaea against celebrating the Lord’s Supper on the day before the Jewish Passover (14 Nisan) (see Quartodecimanism and Easter controversy). This marked a definite break of Christianity from the Judaic tradition. From then on the Roman Julian Calendar, a solar calendar, was given precedence over the lunar Hebrew Calendar among the Christian churches of the Roman Empire.[222]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great

 

“This marked a definite break of Christianity from the Judaic tradition.”  What Constantine did was not a break from “tradition,” it was a break from the commandments of God.  And even before Constantine the plot to eliminate the Law and real Christians (those who followed the word of God, not church) was well under way.  This plot continues to this day.

 


 


T. D. Jakes on Tithing

 

 

* Most of the following information is actually taken from another piece I did, Babylon Is Fallen.

 

 

TD Jakes • Straight Talk About Tithes • Sermon on Tithing • TD Jakes Tithing and Offerings • Tithes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-rlve6ctcM

  • If the video or channel becomes unavailable, search for it on Youtube under “T.D. Jakes Straight Talk About Tithes”.

 

I’m not going to comment too much on his statements about tithing, the truth of that will be shown at the end, I will mostly highlight and/or comment on his other statements.

 

1:19 – 1:30 – He said that they have to teach sound Biblical principles without wavering from the truth … particularly so that those who tithe would get the full benefit out of tithing.

 

1:56 – 2:08 – “I do believe that God is supposed to bless His people.  I believe He is supposed to bless His people.  I just do not believe that the enemy would be better to me in sin than God would be to me in salvation.”  God is supposed to …?  And being better to you is providing the “better blessing”?  Wow.  You know how God taught me to be content in all situations, among other things, by not having anything.  Now I have something more valuable than blessings.  And there are many other reasons why not having “blessings” would actually be more of a blessing to you.  And obviously TD Jakes see’s blessings as money, or things purchased with money.  His statement is so stupid, but sounds good.  Most people even know that the average person will gain more “blessings” in this life in sin than in walking with God.  True or false?  So, what is he saying?  Like I said, it sounds good.  And to really show how stupid his statement is, and to put the whole blessings thing to rest, watch these short sections of video below.

Origins of Blessings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9wOOErrsO0

Watch the beginning – 5:33
Idolatry, Blessing, & Love Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ldsBv5pDo

 

4:43 – 5:33 – “But simply stated a tithe is a tenth of your gross income.  A tenth of your gross income.  Tithe … tenth.  It is a tenth of your gross income that is considered an opportunity for you to worship God through obedience to His word by setting it aside as holy unto Him.  That’s simply what a tithe is … ten percent of your gross income.  And in the early Bible days it went far beyond money because they weren’t always dealing with money as commerce.  They were dealing with crops; they were dealing with cattle; they were dealing with oxen.  … So, it was a tenth of whatever was taken in – their gross income was set aside, and it was considered holy unto the LORD. ”  First off, where did he get that extra portion of definition from?  That is something to be considered.  And somehow, some way, tithing, which is from the Law, to the Israelites, is NOT a covenant or sign of a covenant with Israel like he stated the Sabbath was.  How can the Sabbath be for Israel only, but not tithing?

 

5:40 – 7:05 – He speaks of the tithe being holy, consecrated, unto God, and just how serious and special things holy to God are.  Oh, like the Sabbath?  Or when it comes to T. D. Jakes, unlike the Sabbath, although God said it is.

 

7:16 – 7:44 – “But the tithe is supposed to be holy unto the LORD.  It is so holy unto the LORD that there are scriptures – and I’m not going to deal with them all tonight; in fact, there’s so much on tithing … God talks way more about money throughout the Bible than He does about so many things that we emphasize so much more – but God is so serious about tithing that if you were to use His tithe He wants interest, according to Scriptures, on His money.  That’s scriptural.  That’s scriptural.”

 

8:04 – 8:10 – “And God takes that so seriously that when they stopped bringing the tithes, He said that they had robbed Him.”

 

8:22 – 8:57 – “If somebody’s abusing the funds, God’s going to judge them.  You will still get your blessing, because you did it as ‘holy unto the Lord’.  Are you understanding what I’m saying?  By the same token it gives me a sense of comfort to be in a ministry where the funds have accountability because I prefer to sow into good ground.”  That last part about sowing into good ground is from the same false sow a seed doctrine the other cons teach.  He then stated another part of that false doctrine, that “anointing,” or in this case, money, will go from the head, him, down to the congregation, them.

 

8:57 – 9:50 – The listeners in his church, and those watching by television, had the idea implanted into their minds that most of ministers they see taking money and spending it on outrageous things aren’t evil or crooked.  They’re not crooks, they’re uneducated, misinformed, mistaken – innocent.  From this implanted belief, the rest of the TBN ministers gain the trust of the people.  And TD Jakes started this statement off by saying, “And may I be honest with you, and very transparent …”

 

10:38 – 10:58 – “This will wolf-proof you.  If you don’t do things you can’t explain, it will wolf-proof you where you don’t get into these hocus pocus, bathroom prophets, parking lot prophets, beauty shop pastors; and they start leading you into things where they don’t have scripture to do.”

 

11:08 – 11:42 – “If a man redeems any of his tithes he must add a fifth of the value to it.  Are you hearing what I’m saying?  A fifth to the value of it.  … 20%.”

 

18:25 – 19:09 – “… that should never be on the altar.  You should never sashay up to God’s holy altar and act like something is a sacrifice that it really is not.”  A church altar is NOT holy, and it is most definitely NOT God’s altar.  That is insane.  And that’s that Roman Christian replacement theology.  It’s like saying a church is God’s house.  If you actually knew the Scriptures you would know just how insane that thinking is.  And he uses this lie to get the people to fear bringing something less than a sacrifice to his own altar.  In other words, he’s saying that God requires them to give to him, T. D. Jakes, until it hurts.

 

40:15 – 40:59 – He brought up Malachi 3:10 to convince the people that they had to bring all of the tithe, and to tithe their gross income.  He then said, “This is just so you’d get a clear understanding so that you maximize your return.”

 

46:08 – 51:21– He read off Malachi 1:6 and stated out of his own mouth that it said that God was talking to the priests, not the Israelites (the people).  He then used that verse and the verses following it to convince the people that they couldn’t just bring any type of tithe to the altar.  He then went on with Malachi, linking it to the people, not the priests.

 

55:19 – 56:14 – “Where should the tithe be paid?  The answer: God’s money, God’s house.”  God’s money?  Money He has nothing to do with?  God’s house?  Never in a million years.  Let’s lay this house thing to rest.  Read pages 86-88 of Wake Up Jacob.

 

Throughout the sermon he taught the Roman Christian way, cherry-picking verses, taking them out of context, then defining them.

 


 

 

Giving a tithe willingly, and “giving” (paying) a tithe to comply with a commandment are two totally different things, right?  True or false, T. D. Jakes and others like him teach that God commands people to give a tithe?

In the same way you pay income tax when there is actually no law, no commandment, requiring you to pay, you pay tithes when there is no law, no commandment, requiring you to pay.  But everyone has been doing it for so long, like tradition, so why would it seem wrong to them, especially when those in positions of authority, and those knowledgeable in that area, say it’s the correct thing to do.  But it’s not correct, especially when you consider that these people, like T. D. Jakes, are saying that God said it when He didn’t.

Reading the Bible or sitting in church you might have heard of the Law.  This is in reference to the body of laws, statutes and judgments contained in the Torah, “the law of Moses,” which is the first 5 books of the Bible.  These are laws/instructions the Israelites had to live by as part of their agreement/covenant with God.  Today, nearly all Christian ministers teach that the Law was done away with, and “nailed to the cross” (a traditional teaching).  They say that you don’t have to live by the Law.  This is interesting because tithing, giving 10%, comes from the Law, and the Law ONLY. So, any minister that is telling you that the Law was done away with, is telling you that you DON’T have to tithe.  So stop doing it!

Think about it, all of the Law was done away with except for one?  It’s kind of strange how most of them teach that the entire Law was done away with and was nailed to the cross, but somehow this one law of the Torah, tithing, was not.  And then they teach that they are “New Testament Christians,” and don’t deal with the Old Testament, then go to Old Testament scriptures like Malachi 3:8 to justify tithing.  Obviously, something is wrong.

 

Now you’re going to learn what the Bible actually says about tithing.  Now you’re really going to be “wolf-proof” when it comes to tithes.

Here are some teachings that prove Creflo (Theft-Mo) Dollar, T. D. Jakes (Snakes), and other pastors like them are lying (your neighborhood pastor may be unlearned or following traditional lies).  These are the correct teachings you should be learning.  These short videos are followed up with information on where you can get a full scriptural breakdown on tithes, every verse related to tithing, so that you won’t have to take these people’s word for it.

 

The Truth About TITHING – 3B [Is the tithe MONEY??]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYNJaoBPnBE

 

There were 12 tribes/families out of Jacob/Israel.  One of those tribes was Levi/the Levites/Lewi.  This tribe didn’t receive an inheritance, a plot of land, like the other tribes, and the entire tribe was assigned to tabernacle/temple service.  With that being the case, they couldn’t grow and raise food like the other tribes so God told Moses to tell the Israelites to tithe of their agricultural produce, which was plant life and animal life, not money; and they were told to bring this tithe to the tabernacle/temple so that those working there (the Levites) could eat.  That’s what the required, commanded, tithe was.

NUMBERS
CHAPTER 18
AND the LORD said unto Aaron, Thou and thy sons and thy
father’s house with thee shall bear the iniquity of the

sanctuary: and thou and thy sons with thee shall bear the
iniquity of your priesthood.
2 And thy brethren also of the tribe of Levi, the tribe of thy
father, bring thou with thee, that they may be joined unto
thee, and minister unto thee: but thou and thy sons with
thee shall minister before the tabernacle of witness.
3 And they shall keep thy charge, and the charge of all the
tabernacle: only they shall not come nigh the vessels of the
sanctuary and the altar, that neither they, nor ye also, die.
4 And they shall be joined unto thee, and keep the charge of
the tabernacle of the congregation, for all the service of the
tabernacle: and a stranger shall not come nigh unto you.
5 And ye shall keep the charge of the sanctuary, and the
charge of the altar: that there be no wrath any more upon
the children of Israel.
6 And I, behold, I have taken your brethren the Levites
from among the children of Israel: to you they are given as
a gift for the LORD, to do the service of the tabernacle of the
congregation.
7 Therefore thou and thy sons with thee shall keep your
priest’s office for every thing of the altar, and within the
vail; and ye shall serve: I have given your priest’s office
unto you as a service of gift: and the stranger that cometh
nigh shall be put to death.
8 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Behold, I also have
given thee the charge of mine heave offerings of all the
hallowed things of the children of Israel; unto thee have I
given them by reason of the anointing, and to thy sons, by
an ordinance for ever.
9 This shall be thine of the most holy things, reserved from
the fire: every oblation of theirs, every meat offering of
theirs, and every sin offering of theirs, and every trespass
offering of theirs, which they shall render unto me, shall be
most holy for thee and for thy sons.
10 In the most holy place shalt thou eat it; every male shall
eat it: it shall be holy unto thee.
11 And this is thine; the heave offering of their gift, with all
the wave offerings of the children of Israel: I have given
them unto thee, and to thy sons and to thy daughters with
thee, by a statute for ever: every one that is clean in thy
house shall eat of it.
12 All the best of the oil, and all the best of the wine, and of
the wheat, the firstfruits of them which they shall offer unto
the LORD, them have I given thee.
13 And whatsoever is first ripe in the land, which they shall
bring unto the LORD, shall be thine; every one that is clean
in thine house shall eat of it.
14 Every thing devoted in Israel shall be thine.
15 Every thing that openeth the matrix in all flesh, which
they bring unto the LORD, whether it be of men or beasts,
shall be thine: nevertheless the firstborn of man shalt thou
surely redeem, and the firstling of unclean beasts shalt thou
redeem.
16 And those that are to be redeemed from a month old
shalt thou redeem, according to thine estimation, for the
money of five shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary,
which is twenty gerahs.
17 But the firstling of a cow, or the firstling of a sheep, or
the firstling of a goat, thou shalt not redeem; they are holy:
thou shalt sprinkle their blood upon the altar, and shalt burn
their fat for an offering made by fire, for a sweet savour
unto the LORD.
18 And the flesh of them shall be thine, as the wave breast
and as the right shoulder are thine.
19 All the heave offerings of the holy things, which the
children of Israel offer unto the LORD, have I given thee,
and thy sons and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for
ever: it is a covenant of salt for ever before the LORD unto
thee and to thy seed with thee.
20 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no
inheritance in their land, neither shalt thou have any part
among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the
children of Israel.
21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the
tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which
they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the
congregation.
22 Neither must the children of Israel henceforth come nigh
the tabernacle of the congregation, lest they bear sin, and
die.
23 But the Levites shall do the service of the tabernacle of
the congregation, and they shall bear their iniquity: it shall
be
a statute for ever throughout your generations, that

among the children of Israel they have no inheritance.
24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer
as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the
Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among
the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
25 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When
ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have
given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall
offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth
part of the tithe.
27 And this your heave offering shall be reckoned unto you,
as though it were the corn of the threshingfloor, and as the
fulness of the winepress.
28 Thus ye also shall offer an heave offering unto the LORD
of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel;
and ye shall give thereof the LORD’s heave offering to
Aaron the priest.
29 Out of all your gifts ye shall offer every heave offering
of the LORD, of all the best thereof, even the hallowed part
thereof out of it.
30 Therefore thou shalt say unto them, When ye have
heaved the best thereof from it, then it shall be counted unto
the Levites as the increase of the threshingfloor, and as the
increase of the winepress.
31 And ye shall eat it in every place, ye and your
households: for it is your reward for your service in the
tabernacle of the congregation.
32 And ye shall bear no sin by reason of it, when ye have
heaved from it the best of it: neither shall ye pollute the
holy things of the children of Israel, lest ye die.

 

Just from that you can see that the purpose of the tithe was to feed those working in the tabernacle/temple, those who didn’t have a plot of land.  And after the Levites got a tenth of the produce, they had to give a tenth to Aaron, the high priest.

The only time the tithe had anything to do with money was in a law in Deuteronomy 14:22-26.  If the place God chose, which was Jerusalem, was too far for the Israelites to bring grain, flocks, and so forth they were allowed to sell those things, come to Jerusalem and spend the money on whatever they wanted.  That’s it.  That’s the ONLY time money is brought up when dealing with tithing.

 

The Truth About TITHING – 3C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP-XhbThHtw

 

When watching this next video, don’t be thrown off by their use of proper names.  The information they are giving is accurate, as you will see in the scriptural breakdown.  Just keep going with it, don’t be discouraged.

Tithing & Law done away part A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIeZcqtQvO4

 

Watch 4:45 – 35:14
The Truth Part 2
https://youtu.be/RWDP45iC88o?t=4m45s

 

For a full scriptural breakdown on tithing see pages 352-399 of Wake Up Jacob.  You’ll see that T. D. Jakes was lying.  He wasn’t mistaken, he was lying.  If you listened to what he said, he knew the Law/the Torah in regards to tithes, so for him to still justify giving tithes ….  After reading this, go back and watch his video again.  With your new found knowledge you should be able to see his lies clearly, especially how he takes verses out of context, while others are left out entirely.

 

 

“But what about the New Testament?”

The New Testament doesn’t show that a tithe is required either.  I’ll show you the main New Testament verses pastors try to twist to support tithing.  I’ll be using the New International Version so you’ll have an easier read (even though I don’t like the NIV).

ACTS
CHAPTER 11
27 During this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28 One of them, named Agabus, stood up and through the Spirit predicted that a severe famine would spread over the entire Roman world. (This happened during the reign of Claudius.) 29 The disciples, as each one was able, decided to provide help for the brothers and sisters living in Judea. 30 This they did, sending their gift to the elders by Barnabas and Saul.


Judea is an area which includes Jerusalem.

 

 

A statement made by Saul/Paul:

ACTS
CHAPTER 24
17 “After an absence of several years, I came to Jerusalem to bring my people gifts for the poor and to present offerings.

 

 

From Saul’s/Paul’s letter to the believers in Rome:

ROMANS
CHAPTER 15
24 I plan to do so when I go to Spain. I hope to see you while passing through and to have you assist me on my journey there, after I have enjoyed your company for a while. 25 Now, however, I am on my way to Jerusalem in the service of the Lord’s people there. 26 For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem.

ROMANS
CHAPTER 15
23 But now that there is no more place for me to work in these regions, and since I have been longing for many years to visit you, 24 I plan to do so when I go to Spain. I hope to see you while passing through and to have you assist me on my journey there, after I have enjoyed your company for a while. 25 Now, however, I am on my way to Jerusalem in the service of the Lord’s people there. 26 For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem. 27 They were pleased to do it, and indeed they owe it to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.

 

 

From Saul’s/Paul’s letter to the believers in Corinth:

1 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 16
Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem. If it seems advisable for me to go also, they will accompany me. After I go through Macedonia, I will come to you—for I will be going through Macedonia. Perhaps I will stay with you for a while, or even spend the winter, so that you can help me on my journey, wherever I go. For I do not want to see you now and make only a passing visit; I hope to spend some time with you, if the Lord permits.

2 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 8
And now, brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the grace that God has given the Macedonian churches. In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own, they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the Lord’s people. And they exceeded our expectations: They gave themselves first of all to the Lord, and then by the will of God also to us. So we urged Titus, just as he had earlier made a beginning, to bring also to completion this act of grace on your part. But since you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in the love we have kindled in you[a]—see that you also excel in this grace of giving.

2 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 9
There is no need for me to write to you about this service to the Lord’s people. For I know your eagerness to help, and I have been boasting about it to the Macedonians, telling them that since last year you in Achaia were ready to give; and your enthusiasm has stirred most of them to action. But I am sending the brothers in order that our boasting about you in this matter should not prove hollow, but that you may be ready, as I said you would be. For if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—not to say anything about you—would be ashamed of having been so confident. So I thought it necessary to urge the brothers to visit you in advance and finish the arrangements for the generous gift you had promised. Then it will be ready as a generous gift, not as one grudgingly given. Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. As it is written: “They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor; their righteousness endures forever.”[a] 10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God. 12 This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of the Lord’s people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God. 13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, others will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else. 14 And in their prayers for you their hearts will go out to you, because of the surpassing grace God has given you. 15 Thanks be to God for his indescribable gift!

 

The verses these pastors go to in the New Testament to support their tithing doctrine are about Saul’s fundraiser for the poor saints in Jerusalem.  You can search the rest of the New Testament and you won’t find a single verse telling anyone to pay 10% of anything.  You definitely won’t find a verse stating that Yahuah (God) said to pay 10%.  There’s nothing.  And yet they still get away with it by taking verses out of context and going to a law and section of the Bible that they themselves say is null and void.  But this is reflection of the complete lack of Biblical knowledge of these congregations (you).

And it might seem that those verses support the doctrine of the false shepherds, but they don’t.  For one, Saul/Paul was trying to convince churches to give, and he was doing a lot of convincing.  With that, what Saul/Paul stated was already stated elsewhere, that if you give to the poor you will be blessed, and if you give to God’s people you will be blessed.  Those pastors aren’t doing either one, and their congregations aren’t doing either one.

 

Here are some New Testament passages the money hungry pastors won’t share with their congregations.

ACTS
CHAPTER 2
41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. 42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.

ACTS
CHAPTER 4
31 After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. 32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. 36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.

I’m not trying to say that this is what’s supposed to be done today.  This was done then because of the time period and circumstances they were in.  But something similar could be done today.

 

Saul/Paul, in his letter to the believers in Corinth:

1 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 9
Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not the result of my work in the Lord? Even though I may not be an apostle to others, surely I am to you! For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. This is my defense to those who sit in judgment on me. Don’t we have the right to food and drink? Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas[a]? Or is it only I and Barnabas who lack the right to not work for a living? Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”[b] Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. 11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ. 13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? 14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. 15 But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast. 16 For when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, since I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! 17 If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me. 18 What then is my reward? Just this: that in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel. 19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.

 

Even though this supports the claims of these money hunger pastors, that they can live off of the gospel, they hardly ever go to this chapter because of what else Saul/Paul says in it.  And if they do go here they take verses out of context.

And please realize that what Saul/Paul was saying was nothing like what some of these pastors are doing.  He was not tricking people with a “sow a seed” doctrine, telling them to give to him so they’d receive in return.  He wasn’t telling them that they had to tithe either.  He only said that he had the right to live from what had to be willful donations.  And he didn’t even take that right!  In fact, he said his reward was to preach the gospel free of charge. 

Even though what he was speaking of when he said “preach the gospel” was different than what’s called preaching the gospel today, what he explained is still relevant to today’s circumstances.  Those who teach a congregation are able to make a living from doing so.  But “make a living” means that needs are taken care of, not wants.  If someone is teaching once or more a week, and being available for his flock during that time also, he wouldn’t have time to work.  He should get something for his needs.

There are ways to meet his needs without meeting his wants.  Donations to the pastor could be set up in such a way that his needs are taken care of, but he doesn’t receive any money personally.  For instance, his bills, from a modest lifestyle, could be paid for by his congregation.  His bills could be linked to a special account where money can’t be withdrawn by him.

Or you can do something similar to what the early Church did and lay substance at the elder’s feet to be distributed to those in congregation, or outside, who need assistance, and then make it so that the pastor is one of those people who received from that.  And when I say receive, I don’t mean he puts his hand in the pot and draws out what he wants, I mean what he needs can be given to him.  His bills can be paid from that.  If he wants extra money, he can get a job or get money some other way.  There could even be a separate donation or account for his wants.

 

Warning, this next video has strong language, but he makes a good point about the strong language a little after the half way mark, so keep watching.

#PreachersOfLA /Prosperity Pastors Are Just Pimps With Bibles In Their Hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0x6TfWF3Hc

“Do you deserve to be pimped and bamboozled because you’re not reading the Bible for yourself.”

 

Warning, strong language.

Christians Pay Attention: Tithing, The Evander Holyfield Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOQ_AXXPC68

 

Here are some things that were said long ago, but they match circumstances today.

EZEKIEL
CHAPTER 22

23 ¶ And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou art the land that is not
cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.
25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst
thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have
devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious
things; they have made her many widows in the midst
thereof.
26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned
mine holy things: they have put no difference between the
holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference
between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes
from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves
ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to
get dishonest gain.
28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered
morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying,
Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

 

EZEKIEL
CHAPTER 34
AND the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel,
prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto
the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do
feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill
them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye
healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that
which was
broken, neither have ye brought again that which
was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was
lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd:
and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when
they were scattered.
6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon
every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the
face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
7 ¶ Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock
became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of
the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my
shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed
themselves, and fed not my flock;
9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the
shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and
cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the
shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my
flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11 ¶ For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will
both search my sheep, and seek them out.
12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is
among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my
sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they
have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.
13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather
them from the countries, and will bring them to their own
land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the
rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high
mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in
a good fold, and in a fat pasture shall they feed upon the
mountains of Israel.
15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that

which was driven away, and will bind up that which was
broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will
destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with
judgment.
17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams
and the he goats.
18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the
good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the
residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep
waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet?
19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden
with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled
with your feet.
20 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold,
I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the
lean cattle.
21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and
pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have
scattered them abroad;
22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more
be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall
feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and
he shall be their shepherd.
24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David
a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will
cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall
dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
26 And I will make them and the places round about my
hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in
his season; there shall be showers of blessing.
27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the
earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their
land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have
broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of
the hand of those that served themselves of them.
28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither
shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell
safely, and none shall make them afraid.
29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they
shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither
bear the shame of the heathen any more.
30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with
them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my
people, saith the Lord GOD.
31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and
I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

 

MALACHI
CHAPTER 2
AND now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give
glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even
send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea,
I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to
heart.
3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon
your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one
shall take you away with it.
4 And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment
unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the
LORD of hosts.
5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave
them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was
afraid before my name.
6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not
found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity,
and did turn many away from iniquity.
7 For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they
should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of
the LORD of hosts.
8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many
to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of
Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.
9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base
before all the people, according as ye have not kept my
ways, but have been partial in the law.

 

 


 

 

T. D. Jakes on Homosexuality

 

 

Are the megachurches and the government working together for a hidden agenda?

 

Excerpt from Former Megachurch Pastor Rob Bell Tells Oprah the Church Is ‘Moments Away’ From Embracing Gay Marriage:

The same-sex marriage discussion portion of the episode, which can be viewed below, starts at around the 29-minute mark where Kristen begins reading an excerpt from the book.

“Marriage, gay and straight, is a gift to the world because the world needs more not less love, fidelity, commitment, devotion and sacrifice,” she noted.

Winfrey then tells the couple that she thought it was great that they made a conscious choice to include gay marriage in the book, and asked them why?

“One of the oldest aches in the bones of humanity is loneliness,” replied Rob Bell. “Loneliness is not good for the world. Whoever you are, gay or straight, it is totally normal, natural and healthy to want someone to go through life with. It’s central to our humanity. We want someone to go on the journey with.”

His response then prompted Winfrey to ask: “When is the church going to get that?”

“We’re close,” he began, answering slowly before his wife interjected “I think it’s evolving.”

He then added: “Lots of people are already there. We think it’s inevitable and we’re moments away from the church accepting it.”

Bell warned that if the church keeps resisting same-sex marriage it would “continue to be even more irrelevant.”

Source: http://www.christianpost.com/news/former-megachurch-pastor-rob-bell-tells-oprah-the-church-is-moments-away-from-embracing-gay-marriage-134264/

 

Additional source:

Former Megachurch Pastor Rob Bell: A Church That Doesn’t Support Gay Marriage Is ‘Irrelevant’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/20/rob-bell-oprah-gay-marriage_n_6723840.html

 

That interview was from February of 2015.

Who, or what, is “the church”?  When did representatives from all Christian churches get together?  When did all believers get together?

And think about this, how would they know for a fact that churches are going to accept homosexuality?  They know because it was already planned, and they are helping with the agenda.

This video contains some interesting information:

Frozen 2 to Make Elsa Lesbian Push to #GiveElsaAGirlfriend (Redsilverj)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0GBYyiGVHw

To light up the White House in the rainbow colors after the decision is to celebrate the decision.  Oh, but I thought they were unbiased.

 

This next video was published on May 26, 2015:

Clinton Demands Christians Deny Jesus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM7lCH5Gfxo

 

This video was published on June 28, 2015:

Obama demands Christians Deny Jesus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFH-aVajjIg

Obama used the exact same language as Hilary.  It’s the same language because it’s an agenda.  And you can’t just be tolerant, you have to change.

 

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” – Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

 

This video is from a June 28, 2015 sermon:

Bishop TD Jakes Comments on Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Ruling (NM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7OO-aj4Ps

It was pretty much the same “language,” just tucked into another topic – … change … accept … and learn to associate with all types of people.  What he said is going to connect with what they’re hearing elsewhere.

 

In the previous video, T. D. Jakes clearly avoided addressing homosexuality, homosexuals, the changes in America, the road America is going down, etc.  And what he said, and didn’t say, may seem okay … until you see some alternatives.

Alabama Preacher Cedric Hatcher, Goes Off About Gay Marriage During A City Hall Meeting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzkW8cWhFW0

I agree with this comment on the Youtube page: “Thank God for a REAL PASTOR! God bless him! We need thousands more! Stand up!!!”

 

Watch 3:48 – 4:22
Reggie White “Greatest Week of My Life!” – Last Interview with Michael Rood
https://youtu.be/GUneJ6xmoLY?t=3m48s

 

Weren’t those extremely different from T. D. Jakes?  If T. D. Jakes is who he appears to be, wouldn’t he be in this group?  And think about how Martin Luther King continued to speak out against the Vietnam War even after losing “friends,” funding, and more.  

And doesn’t T. D. Jakes associate with Oprah and Obama?

 

This article is from August 7, 2015:

T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Rights’ and ‘LGBT Churches,’ Says Position is ‘Evolving’
http://christiannews.net/2015/08/07/t-d-jakes-comes-out-for-gay-marriage-and-lgbt-churches-says-position-is-evolving/


Telling statements from the article:

“Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.

‘LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,’ he outlined.

‘The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,’ Jakes added.”

Wow.  A man of God said that?  He basically said that homosexuals should find a congregation that allows them to do what God forbids.  That’s insane. 

 

Here are a few good comments on the article:

“Sounds like yet another Laodicea-esque televangelist who’s more invested in selling his latest book series than he is in preaching the Word of God.”

“What a compromising fool he is. A Charlatan. A false teacher. It’s good to know God will deal with Mr. Jakes in His own time.”

“So, basically people should develop their own theology, culture, and values based on their sinful desires and then form themselves into a group with the label ‘church’? Got it.”

 

This next video was uploaded in November of 2012!:

T.D. Jakes On Homosexuality & Same-Sex Marriage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBdqcxVU-cA

She was right.

 

And this is from 2007:

TD Jakes, Andrew Merritt linked to gay church movement
https://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/td-jakes-andrew-merritt-linked-to-gay-church-movement/

 

 

And there’s a reason homosexuality is accepted in mainstream, popular, churches.  The same people who control these churches control the government.

 

 

The Rothschilds, and those within the same inner circle, are atheistic and Luciferian “Jews”.  Now, think about the extreme push to support Israel that comes from TBN.  Think about all the money that they’ve gotten Christians to give to Israel.  And most of all, think about how TBN corrupts Christian pastors and churches with falsehood like the prosperity gospel, “sowing a seed,” speaking in “tongues,” etc.

You know how celebrities are used by the elite to manipulate the average citizen into believing, saying, feeling, or doing certain things?  Celebrity pastors are used to manipulate Christian pastors, churches, and followers in the same way.  These celebrity pastors can be seen on TBN and other networks; they even hang out with regular celebrities (who are a part of the clearly Satanic entertainment industry).  And the same way the elite are sneaking occult doctrines into society through regular celebrities, especially musicians, they have been sneaking it into Christian churches by celebrity pastors.  You just don’t know it.

As you can see, even the bird in the TBN logo doesn’t represent the Holy Spirit as a Christian might assume.  You can see that same bird, in that same position, in the logo of the Ordo Templi Orientis.

Ordo Templi Orientis

Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) (‘Order of the Temple of the East’ or ‘Order of Oriental Templars’) is an international fraternal and religious organization founded at the beginning of the 20th century. English author and occultist Aleister Crowley has become the best-known member of the order.

Originally it was intended to be modelled after and associated with European Freemasonry,[1] such as Masonic Templar organizations, but under the leadership of Aleister Crowley, O.T.O. was reorganized around the Law of Thelema as its central religious principle. This Law—expressed as “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law”[2] and “Love is the law, love under will”[3]—was promulgated in 1904 with the writing of The Book of the Law.

Similar to many secret societies, O.T.O. membership is based on an initiatory system with a series of degree ceremonies that use ritual drama to establish fraternal bonds and impart spiritual and philosophical teachings.

O.T.O. also includes the Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica (EGC) or Gnostic Catholic Church, which is the ecclesiastical arm of the Order. Its central rite, which is public, is called Liber XV, or the Gnostic Mass.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis

 

Most people already know about the Rothschilds and other so-called Jews’ creation and control of the 1776 Illuminati, and its control over Freemasonry.

Pat Robertson the Mason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnSxC6DFkis

 

So, T. D. Jakes supports homosexuality and is a part of the New World Order homosexual agenda.  And that’s the least of what he’s a part of.

 

2 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 11
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be
transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end
shall be according to their works.

 

 


 

 

T. D. Jakes the Actor

 

 

Tyler Perry gives T.D Jakes $1 Million Dollars at The Potters House Dallas HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkcWxnjr-s

How could they talk about Jesus, and proclaim to be followers of Jesus, but do the opposite of what he said?

MATTHEW
CHAPTER 6
TAKE heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen
of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which
is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a
trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues
and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I
say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which
seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

 

Tyler Perry is an actor.  If you watch that video closely, and watch some T. D. Jakes sermons, you’ll see who Tyler Perry studied for his Madea character.  And the way he stops talking in the middle of a sentence, as if it’s getting too good, is so fake.  He got that from T. D. Jakes.

Tyler Perry “preached” to the crowd in order to get them to give as he did.  He was there to assist in the robbery.

At 3:33 in the video you can see the men come in view of the camera.  Before that, they were already on their way.  In addition, they got behind T. D. Jakes before Tyler Perry even lifted up his hand to put it on T. D. Jakes’ head.  Why would these men assume that T. D. Jakes was going to fall backwards just from Tyler Perry talking?  Like I said, they were already getting into position before he lifted up his hand.  Clearly, this was staged.  So, what kind of man do you think T. D. Jakes is?

 

Warning, strong language.

@tylerperry Donates A Million Dollars And Lays Hands On @BishopTDJakes: Christians WAKE UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDaoa_pv56Y

 


 

1 TIMOTHY
CHAPTER 3
THIS is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop,
he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one
wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to
hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre;
but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in
subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how
shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into
the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are
without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

 

American Gangster (2/11) Movie CLIP – Somebody Or Nobody (2007) HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXCMz340CRg

 

For some of you, T. D. Jakes was your spiritual head.  For some of you, he was your spiritual father.  And he was supposedly the spiritual leader of black people.  Now, which one of you wants to step up and take his place?

 

KXB